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เป็นกระสือลอยด้วย รอต้มให้ได้ที่ก่อนค่อยลงหม้อปรุง ว่าแต่พี่ใช้อัดเสียงไว้ลงยูทูปยังไงครับ ผมใช้กล้องดิจิตอลอัดเสียง ไม่ได้เรื่องเลยเสียงอู้อี้มากถ้าเราเล่นไปด้วยอัดไปด้วยในเครื่องเดียวกันได้ไหมครับ
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Originally posted by sornuk View Postขอบคุณครับ
ตัว regulator ทั้งสองตัวร้อนครับถ้ามีโหลด แต่ไม่มากเท่า 1875
ตอนนี้ต่อแบบไม่ใช้ regulate แล้วครับ สามารถใช้งานได้ ตอนนี้มีปัญหาคือ ข้างนึงมันดังกว่าอีกข้างทั้งๆที่ทุกอย่างเหมือนกัน
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ลองใส่เข้าไปหมดแล้วครับ
ผลที่ได้จากการใส่ C 47uF เข้าไป ทำให้วัดค่าDC ที่ขา output ได้น้อยลงมาก ส่วนค่า4.7uF ผมใส่เป็น อิเล็กโตรไล ผลที่ได้ เสียงจี่ เบาลงไปเล็กน้อย แต่ก็ถือว่ามีผล ถึงแม้จะนิดเดียว
ทีแรกวันนี้ว่าจะไปบ้านหม้อ แต่ตื่นสายไปหน่อย (บ่าย2) เลยเปลี่ยนแผน เพราะต้องไปยื่นภาษีด้วย เลยไว้ไปหาซื้อของพรุ้งนี้ดีกว่า มีอะไหล่ อะไรแนะนำมั่งมั้ยครับ
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10-Oct-2004
Cathode Follower
The most simple version of a tube buffer at the input instead of an opamp buffer or just a bare attenuator is one making use of a basic Cathode Follower circuit. After all, we do not need any gain, just a buffer with stable and reasonably low output impedance. This would be a possible circuit. Others, like Joe Rasmussen use similar designs, but apart from values of cathode resistors, there are not many places where you can go wrong.
Resistor R2 must be chosen such that the Voltage between Cathode and Grid is acceptable for the 6922 tube. Something in the range of 10-22 kOhms is OK.
Cathode Follower, with tube as Rk
But, as mentioned on the previous page, I would like to substitute the standard cathode resistor with the other halve of the tube which will make the whole thing symmetrical wrt ground. The schema for the amp is as follows (for the moment that is):
I'm not entirely sure whether I need R2 giving grid of R2 a negative reference. Simulations show I probably don't need it, so watch this space.
The gain is set by R6/R4=470/22. And apart from the gain setting, which might be just a little bit higher due to the little loss in gain we have from the CF, there is only one thing to worry about: DC on the output. First of all, DC is blocked on the input of the power stage by audio capacitor C1. However, as explained in op amp background pages there is a need to level the impedance on both inputs of the op amp in order to avoid DC on the output as well. And since the inverted input does not have a direct connection to ground (absence of shunt resistor) R6 determines the impedance it sees. Therefore, R5 has the same value as R6 so that the DC offset on the output is minimized. The capacitor C2 on the non-inverted input will allow AC (=signal) to bypass freely.
Should I want to add a low-pass filter, then R4 might be substituted for two separate resistors with a cap to ground in between. Also possible to add a small cap parallel to the feedback resistor R6 although this changes the feedback again so probably not the best solution.
Differential with Cathode Follower
For those that need more output voltage there exists the possibility for a differential version. It's basically the same idea as the BP-100 bridged clone. It accepts differential input (only). I reduced the gain for both op amps so that the total gain remains within reasonable values for an amplifier.
For the moment I do not think that I'll use this version and go for version 2 instead.
Designing the Power Supply
I think I need a couple of transformers here:
- For the power op amps we need a +/- 35 volts regulated power supply
- For the filaments of the 6922 tubes we need 6.3 Volts regulated
- For powering the tubes a power supply of around 40 volts DC is needed.
Regulation is optional (but desired)
Tube B+
If we aim at a B+ of around 40Vdc we need a transformer of 25-30Vac/1A depending on loss of Voltage regulator. Assuming the regulator works best with a Voltage drop of min. 2V we need 42V after rectification which means a power transformer with 28-30 Volts secondaries.Last edited by keang; 15 Feb 2012, 19:12:21.
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ตัวนี้ก็น่าสนใจ มีDIYทั่วโลกเอาไปทำแพร่หลายมาก
Musical Fidelity X10-D
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Simple and easy to do the good results of the vacuum tube buffer preamp (X10D-GC)
Play" e has two or three decades, but on the vacuum tube but admire and afraid, especially pressure, I fear (h electric miserable, has been not forget)!, So have been do not want to touch the vacuum tube circuit. But it has been heard some friends talking about the "fever" by several friend's house to good taste about the vacuum tube sound quality that really, the beginning I can not understand, especially when listening to pop music, but feel that I level after the LM3886 the DC the SERVO AMP] nice (but just a personal feeling, because the sound of this thing is very subjective, each have their own preferences), but the release of Sir I fell in love with a vacuum tube that lazy feeling , can not tell what it's like, I think listening to music interested people are looking for the opportunity to listen to, the other in the symphony, but also the people a long time to listen and not have tired of feeling. There to put a western country music, it sounds very comfortable.
But so far I was not the beginning of the vacuum tube stage to plan the high-wattage while back by accident thinking, first in front of our crystal level by a vacuum tube buffer stage is not the will of the vacuum tube taste rendering on the stage to the crystal immediately online searching for relevant information, to find a British circuit, although it is much earlier circuit, but the wind rating is good, but I fear the high-pressure, the maximum voltage is only +-30V, so I started idea of imitation, the other comes to look for a power supply circuit can be used, slightly modified, after a week, the board LAYOUT out today are not anxious to board wash well immediately to buy the parts needed in which a vacuum tube or a friend TONY support, really grateful to the parts - welding, the test machine.
Circuit diagram is as follows:
on is very low, the original 12V 500mA transformers, I'm currently using the AC 12V 1A, two sets of parallel, because the main circuit of the vacuum tube for ECC88 types, but there are many compatibility tube, such as I am currently using 6922 or 6DJ8, 6N1P ... Most can direct replacement, but some of tube filament current, so I suggest that you use more than 1A of the transformer.
Only 12V AC input how available +-30VDC voltage it? This part of the circuit is to use half-wave rectified voltage doubler way to reach, and the effects of a good power supply with voltage regulation and current limiting circuit. Filament voltage of 12.6 is a traditional 7812 voltage regulator IC (12V) feet of the ground through a IN4001 two diodes it on a 0.6V differential pressure (usually diode bias), so that 7802 can output 12.6V voltage.
Now, say I tried the machine, parts value is the value of the original circuit, the initial boot, vacuum tubes have a period of warm-up time, after a few seconds, wow! Sound, it has been a bit excited! Sound good I connect the output to a BY, PASS switch, let me than by Tube buffer and by Buffer differences, it is clear that IF is very full, but I always feel like a little bit the OVER, but I do not, after all veteran of the vacuum tube, find the vacuum veteran TONY to audition, we put the speaker of the test piece, Tsai CD, his face revealing a surprised look, he felt that the addition of these Buffer, IF the outstanding vocal performance is good by the piano with violin harmonics out, sounds really good, original sound to listen to, learn a little! then again the machine away, he said to go back to try his other level, he must be good!
However, Hing is willing to violate, the first day he tried his crystal AMP, is also a good, but try other vacuum tube amplifiers and found that sometimes the noise of the high-frequency noise and low frequency OVER, finally discovered the following questions, one audio, the audio output of the general CD PLAYER approximately 1Vp-p, but some CD PLAYER audio output voltages up to 2Vp-p., my original LM3886 him test machine, and sometimes there will be some high frequency noise, so my first first my LM3886 DC magnification of the SERVO AMP level decreased from 7.8 times to 5.7 times, which is to replace Ra7 and Rb7 for the 4.7K. In addition then to the input resistors (R1, R11) Buffer circuit changed to 4.7K and 50K VR, made ??the connection of the volume, adjust the input level, the results the OVER feel of the kind of low-frequency improvement but because of my CD audio DAC (stand on my DIY sharing) the output level for the general standard 1Vp-p, so I still maintain the original value of the parts, the effect is really good, if your CD PLAYER is Senior said earlier (output 2Vp-p.), only to follow the instructions to change.
Vacuum gate almost does not consume current, high input impedance amplifier can be made. Want to change the input impedance in order to match, directly to the input resistor R1 and R11 resistance value can be changed the impedance you want.
Another in order to make the output of the low frequency is again full, I change the output capacitor to 3.3uF.
Done on time, to meet my desire, my vacuum tube debut, and shared to give you value for money, its price can be considered, of course, the most important thing is there is no risk of electric shock for beginners, The installation is very simple, but the effect can hear its IF is very full, high-frequency seemed to extend the one really meet.
LAYOUT and parts of the circuit board configuration has been completed as shown below:
Component selection:
- MPSA42 and MPSA92 transistors used in the regulator circuit can also use the BC337 and BC327 alternative, but pay special attention to the pin with the MPS series is about the opposite.
- addition to using the ECC88, the vacuum tube can also use 6 922, 6DJ8, 6N1P dual triode. In two vacuum tube below, and I each left a 5mm hole into 5mm the LED you, some people will like the blue LED on the vacuum tube below, an increase of beauty, but when you use the vacuum tube seat to go Select human-hole. The same from the place of the original power indicator LED to take over, with two blue LED series current limiting resistor R21 is changed to 270 ohms.
- The transformer is recommended to use the output of the AC 12V 1A transformer, I believe that it is easy to find.
- The part of the capacitor, 100pF and 220pF would have been looking for the metal film capacitors, but did not find, had pre-pottery capacitor to use, I mostly use the capacitance of the metal film cross-linked capacitor output cross-linked capacitor selection 2.2uF / 160-250V METAL FILM tube capacitance. As for the power most of the filtering and voltage doubler capacitor 1000uF/35V 50V electrolytic capacitor.
- As for resistance, in addition to the two 1W resistor, all of which I use precision resistors of 1/4W.
The photo below is the finished product, I do a good job and also to share with you.
The main voltage test points:
Article I have mentioned, in order to test whether the Tube Buffer difference, I install the switch of the By Pass, if you want to do, I switch connection available to everyone, as shown:
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Last edited by keang; 15 Feb 2012, 22:09:48.
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ผมโชดดีได้รับ buffer ตัวนี้มาฟรีๆครับ โดยเจ้าของไม่ได้ใช้งานและยังไม่เคยใช้งานครับ
C ทั้งสี่ตัว ที่ผมทำสีแดงชี้ไว้ ตรงจุดนี้ สามารถใช้ C 25V ได้หรือไม่ครับ เจ้าของเดิมใส่ 470uf50V มาครับ แต่ในวงจรระบุ 1000uf50V ครับ
ผมอยาจะเปลียนและพอดีที่บ้านมีอยู่พอดีแต่มันเป็น 1000uf25V ครับ ใส่ได้ไหมครับ
ผมว่าจะทำการลงกล่องเดียวกับ LM1875 ตัวนี้ครับ ผมมี pcb แล้ว 2 แผ่นครับ จะต่อแบบ BTL mode ครับ มันจะได้ข้างละ35w
ที่ผมได้มาครับเป็นตัวนี้ครับ
LM1875 ไฟขนาดไหนที่คิดว่าเหมาะที่สุดครับ ระหว่าง 15-0-15 18-0-18 ครับ
ผมชื้อตัวป้องกันลำโพงของนัฐพงษ์มาครับ เป็นแบบ mono ครับ ผมจะปรับอย่างไรครับให้มันหน่าวเวลาได้สัก 5วิ ครับ ตอนนี้ของผมแค่ 1วิ เองครับ เหมือนไม่เกิดประโยชน์เลยต้องปรับตรงไหนครับ
ขอบคุณมากครับLast edited by cleaning; 15 Feb 2012, 22:14:39.
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