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  • #31
    ดูแล้ว GTX 1060 3 GB ก็ยังคงแรงกว่า RX 470 4 GB แฮะ

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    • #32
      BD Core (Bulldozer core/module)

      CMT (Clustered Multi-Thread)
      ALU (An arithmetic logic unit)
      AGU (Address generation unit)

      From the CPU's perspective,
      a thread (short for "thread of execution") is merely an ordered sequence of instructions that tells the computer what to do.
      I prefer to speak of "instruction streams" instead of "threads,"

      The disadvantage for CMT is a greater number of idle integer execution units in a single threaded case.
      In the single threaded case, CMT is limited to use at most half of the integer execution units in its module.




      ZEN Core
      Last edited by AKK_K; 13 Dec 2016, 13:22:07.

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      • #33
        Here's Why You Should Wait for Zen
        Salazar Studio

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        • #34
          UserBenchmarks
          : Gaming = 92%, Desktop = 90%, Workstation = 52%

          CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K - 99.3%
          GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB - 98.6%
          SSD: Zotac Premium Edition 480GB - 98.4%
          SSD: Zotac Premium Edition 240GB - 104.1%
          RAM: Unknown DDR3-2133 CL9 4GB 2x4GB - 92.3%
          MBD: Gigabyte GA-Z97N-Gaming 5

          http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/2281655


          เทสดูว่าเครื่องท่าน แรงระดับไหนกัน ( ส่วนผม 90%+ ทุกตัว แปลว่ายังเมพอยู่ อิอิ )

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          • #35
            System
            MSI MS-7917
            Motherboard
            MSI Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917) (all builds)
            Memory
            11.7 GB free of 16 GB @ 2.4 GHz
            Display
            1920 x 1080 - 32 Bit colors
            OS
            Windows 10
            Run Date
            Dec 13 '16 at 04:09
            Run Duration
            156 Seconds
            Background CPU
            3%


            UserBenchmarks: Game 55%, Desk 68%, Work 44%
            CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 - 75%
            GPU: Nvidia GTX 960 - 54.7%
            SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB - 56.3%
            HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012) - 103.7%
            HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012) - 68.6%
            RAM: G.SKILL TridentX DDR3 2400 C10 4x4GB - 85%
            MBD: MSI Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)

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            • #36
              The AMD Zen claims to be the most powerful desktop CPU that will conquer the tech industry in the few years.
              It is said to run more than the high clock speed that everyone would expect when it comes to processor performance.

              The upcoming AMD Zen CPU will be competing against the famous Intel Core i7 series, which is known to be the fastest,
              most reliable and most powerful processor at this moment. The AMD Zen architecture will feature a huge clock speed rate with its new chipset.

              A massive 8-Core SKU, running at the default 3.15GHz clock speed is the main weapon of the new AMD Zen CPU.
              But AMD is not done yet, the AMD Zen is capable of boosting its speed up to 3.6GHz.

              It is pretty amazing to know that AMD could release the most energetic 8-Core SKU in the market soon.

              On the other hand, there is also a 4-Core AMD Zen CPU. A minimum 2.9GHz will be featured as it can also boost up to 3.4GHz while using a 65W TDP.
              As we can see, AMD is creating a CPU that runs fast as a lightning without increasing the electrical power consumption.




              Last edited by AKK_K; 13 Dec 2016, 15:49:17.

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              • #37
                Leaked Geekbench Results: AMD Zen Performance Extrapolated ( ข้อมูลเก่า )

                Basically all of the other compute task based tests show the advantage going to Intel's Xeon processor running at 3.6 GHz.
                On average, if these results are at all indicative of what AMD Zen will be in the next 4 months, then it will be ~70-80% of the IPC of Ivy Bridge.

                The results from the AMD Zen processor running at 1.44 GHz as reported by Geekbench. (แล้วมา x Clock ให้เท่า Ivy เพื่อเปรียบเทียบ)

                Leaked Geekbench Results: AMD Zen Performance Extrapolated Over the holiday weekend a leaked Geekbench benchmark result on an engineering sample AMD Zen


                Last edited by AKK_K; 13 Dec 2016, 18:14:37.

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                • #38
                  AMD Zen (SMT) ไม่มี Hyper-Threading มีแต่ 2 Threads per core

                  Last edited by O_ho; 13 Dec 2016, 19:23:03.

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                  • #39
                    Zen also features simultaneous multi-threading, or SMT, similar to Intel's HyperThreading.
                    To put it simply, SMT works by leveraging unused processor resources to execute two threads on a single, physical core.
                    There are often gaps in utilization, as AMD puts it, in a high-performance processor core.
                    SMT exploits those gaps to help execute additional threads.

                    AMD says Zen is here, 8-core Summit Ridge is strong and their CPU architecture is back competitive with their fierce rival Intel. Here's a first look - Page 2


                    และ

                    SMT and Power Management Behind "Kaby Lake" and "ZEN" Windows 10 Restrictions

                    AMD "ZEN" processors introduce simultaneous multi-threading, a feature that exposes each physical core as two logical CPUs to the OS, for better utilization of on-die resources. Intel's implementation of SMT is the HyperThreading Technology (HTT), and has been around for over a decade.

                    AMD's SMT implementation isn't identical to that of HyperThreading,
                    with the two threads on a CPU competing for resources in a method unique to AMD.

                    This can't work without the OS kernel and scheduler being aware of the method.
                    You'll remember that Microsoft had to update the kernel and scheduler of Windows 7 in a similar way, to optimize it for "Bulldozer."


                    This technology is transparent to operating systems and programs. The minimum that is required to take advantage of hyper-threading is symmetric multiprocessing (SMP) support in the operating system, as the logical processors appear as standard separate processors.

                    (
                    It is possible to optimize operating system behavior on multi-processor hyper-threading capable systems. For example,
                    consider an SMP system with two physical processors that are both hyper-threaded (for a total of four logical processors).
                    If the operating system's thread scheduler is unaware of hyper-threading, it will treat all four logical processors the same.
                    If only two threads are eligible to run, it might choose to schedule those threads on the two logical processors
                    that happen to belong to the same physical processor;that processor would become extremely busy while the other would idle,
                    leading to poorer performance than is possible by scheduling the threads onto different physical processors.
                    This problem can be avoided by improving the scheduler to treat logical processors differently from physical processors;
                    in a sense, this is a limited form of the scheduler changes that are required for NUMA systems.
                    )



                    หลัการเดียวกัน
                    SMT ใน version ของ Intel คือ HyperThreading
                    SMT ของ AMD ยังไม่รู้ว่าตั้งชื่อเฉพาะหรือยัง


                    Microsoft recently sparked a stir when it was reported that the company will support upcoming CPU architectures by Intel and AMD only on Windows 10, with the keyword being "support" and not "compatibility." This means that Microsoft will offer customer-support and likely serve updates to Intel "Kaby...



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                    Hyper-Threading Technology is a form of simultaneous multithreading technology introduced by Intel,
                    while the concept behind the technology has been patented by Sun Microsystems.
                    Last edited by AKK_K; 13 Dec 2016, 22:04:51.

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                    • #40
                      Ryzen "Summit Ridge" CPU 3.4Ghz (Precision Boost disabled) 8 cores / 16 threads 20MB L2+L3 Cache
                      VS
                      Intel Core i7-6900K 3.2Ghz Base/3.7Ghz Max Turbo 8 cores / 16 threads 22MB L2+L3 Cache

                      AMD Ryzen (Zen) vs Intel i7 6900k Handbrake Test Live


                      Handbrake FX 8XXX ทำผลงานไม่ดีซะเท่าไร
                      Last edited by AKK_K; 14 Dec 2016, 10:40:09.

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                      • #41
                        GTX 1060 3 vs GTX 1060 6 in end 2016 games

                        Windows 10
                        Nvidia GeForce GameReady 376.19 WHQL driver

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                        • #42
                          GTX 1060 6 vs RX 480 8 in end 2016 games

                          Test system
                          GTX 1060 6Gb @ 2000 Palit ref
                          RX 480 8Gb @ 1400 ASUS
                          i7-6700@4.8
                          2*8 ????? DDR4
                          Windows 10
                          ?????? Ultra

                          Nvidia GeForce GameReady 376.19 WHQL driver
                          Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 16.12.1


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                          • #43
                            i3 6100 paired with a GTX 1060 - Is it playable? - 14 Games Tested

                            อันนี้จำเป็นต้องฟังผู้จัดทำคลิปเขาบรรยายด้วยนะครับ
                            ซึ่งแสดงให้เห็นขีดเจำกัดของ 2 Core / 4 thread ได้เป็นอย่างดี
                            ให้ดู CPU load VS GPU load ด้วยครับ

                            ให้คะแนนเต็ม สำหรับการ Review

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                            • #44
                              Overclocking an i3 6100 to 4.4GHz (Tutorial)

                              Published on Sep 17, 2016
                              - Non-K Intel Skylake CPU overclocking used to be a thing - that is,
                              until Intel forced micro-code updates disabling this feature. Wait.
                              They didn't do it via Windows? You're saying it's still possible?

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                              • #45
                                Asrock B150M Pro4/Hyper - Overclocking Guide - Non K CPUS

                                Intel i3 6100 cpu (oc 4.6ghz)
                                Asrock B150M Pro4/Hyper motherboard

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