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**ssk** · 24 Jul 2020, 10:25:59

Intel's 7nm is Broken, Company Announces Delay Until 2022, 2023
INtel Node 7nm มีปัญหา ทำให้ต้องเลื่อนการผลิต ออกไปจนถึงช่วงปี 2022-2023

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/in...d-expectations

By Paul Alcorn 6 hours ago

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Intel announced today in its Q2 2020 earnings release that it has now delayed the rollout of its 7nm CPUs by six months relative to its previously-planned release date, undoubtedly resulting in wide-ranging delays to the company's roadmaps. Intel's press release also says that yields for its 7nm process are now twelve months behind the company's internal targets, meaning the company isn't currently on track to produce its 7nm process in an economically viable way. The company now says its 7nm CPUs will not debut on the market until late 2022 or early 2023.

Here's the snippet from Intel's press release:

"The company's 7nm-based CPU product timing is shifting approximately six months relative to prior expectations. The primary driver is the yield of Intel's 7nm process, which based on recent data, is now trending approximately twelve months behind the company's internal target."

On the earnings call, Intel CEO Bob Swan said the company had identified a "defect mode" in its 7nm process that caused yield degradation issues. As a result, Intel has invested in "contingency plans," which Swan later defined as including using third-party foundries. The company will also use external third-party foundries for its forthcoming 7nm Ponte Vecchio GPUs, the company's first graphics chips. Swan noted the GPUs will come in late 2021 or early 2022, portending a delay beyond the original schedule for a 2021 launch in the exascale Aurora supercomputer. Ponte Vecchio comes as a chiplet-based design, and Swan clarified that production for some of the chiplets (tiles) will be outsourced to third parties.

Intel's first 7nm server CPUs (Granite Rapids) will arrive in 2023, which is later than listed in earlier roadmaps that projected a launch in 2022. That timeline is concerning in the face of AMD's continued execution with its EPYC data center chips – AMD's roadmaps outline its 5nm Genoa processors coming to market before the end of 2022. Swan also said that Intel's first 7nm processors will debut for the client market, meaning chips targeting either desktop PCs or laptops. Intel's first 10nm desktop CPUs, Alder Lake, will arrive in the second half of 2021.

For perspective, rival foundry TSMC plans to be on the 3nm node in the same time frame as Intel's new schedule for 7nm. Intel clearly isn't pleased with its execution on the 7nm node, as an embattled Swan remarked that "I'm not happy, I'm not pleased, with our 7nm performance" at the end of the call after a bruising question and answer session with analysts. Swan also said "we have root-caused the [7nm] issue and believe there are no fundamental roadblocks," and that the company would provide further updates at an upcoming Architecture Day.

Swan said the company had a built-in buffer in its roadmap to account for process node delays. That accomodation comes as a result of hard-learned lessons from the company's incessant 10nm delays. Intel says it will use its advanced packaging technologies, which allow it to mix and match components produced from external sources with its own chips, to help reconcile the six month delay to its 7nm processors with the year-long delay to its internal 7nm yield projections. In the past, Intel stated that it would also enable newer architectures to be portable to older nodes, so it's plausible that Intel could resort to back-porting some architectures as part of its contingency plan.

The 7nm delay reflects yet another setback as Intel still struggles to overcome the multi-year yield issues it has encountered with its 10nm process. Those delays have allowed its competitors, like AMD, to wrest the process node leadership position from Intel for the first time in the company's history. That's triggered a price war in the market as Intel fights a true x86 competitor with a better node, not to mention Amazon's new Graviton 2 ARM chips based on TSMC's 7nm node. Apple also recently announced that it is transitioning from Intel's chips to its own ARM-based 7nm silicon. The 7nm delay also exacerbates the recent news that rock star chip architect Jim Keller, who was a key part of a team effort to revitalize the company's roadmaps, has left the company.

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Intel CFO George Davis has previously indicated that the company's process tech would lag its its competitors until 7nm arrived in 2021, and that the company would regain the lead with its 5nm process at an undefined time:

"So we bring a lot of capability to the table for our customers, in addition to the CPU, and we feel like we're starting to see the acceleration on the process side that we have been talking about to get back to parity in the 7nm generation and regain leadership in the 5nm generation."

That plan to regain a competitive footing has now obviously shifted due to the 7nm delay. Intel had planned to speed the delivery of its 7nm node to offset the underperforming 10nm, which it said would not perform as well as other nodes. At the time, Davis noted that the company was trying to be clear with investors about the impacts of 10nm on the company's gross margins: "...but the fact is that I wanted to be clear what was happening during the 10nm generation. The fact is, it isn't going to be as strong a node as people would expect from 14nm or what they'll see in 7nm."

In regards to the 10nm node, Davis commented: "As we said back at our analyst day in May of 19: Look, this isn't just going to be the best node that Intel has ever had. It's going to be less productive than 14nm, less productive than 22nm, but we're excited about the improvements that we're seeing and we expect to start the 7nm period with a much better profile of performance over that starting at the end of 2021."

"Also, we were at a time when in order to regain process leadership we had to accelerate the overlap between 10nm, 7nm, and then 7nm and 5nm, so the cost that you're absorbing, starting in particular in 2021, you’ve got this intersection of the performance of 10nm, the investment in 7nm, and were also well into starting the investment in 5nm: All of those elements just combine to impact gross margin."

Today Intel said that it plans to increase its shipments of 10nm chips by 20% over its prior projections, so it appears the company's 10nm plans have shifted out of necessity. Intel's new plan centers on gaining another 'full node' of performance from its current 10nm node, meaning 10nm may have longer legs than the company expected when it announced last year that it would accelerate 7nm production. Intel pulled off a similar feat with its 14nm processors through a series of "+" revisions that added incremental performance improvements, so it does have a track record of successful inter-node improvements that could help it remain competitive until it can correct the issues with its 7nm process.

Intel has also traditionally used third-party fabs, currently to the tune of ~20% of its production, for low-margin, non-CPU products built on trailing-edge nodes. Intel's new plans to more aggressively leverage external fabs could result in it using other fabs for its core logic, like CPUs and GPUs, which the company hasn't done in the past. As Swan noted, that will present challenges in maintaining attractive ASPs for Intel's products, especially given the scale of its production needs. Ultimately, Intel could also face significantly reduced margins if it outsources significant portions of its fabrication of high-margin products, like CPUs, to third parties. Relying upon an outside vendor for leading-edge node production also incurs more risk in terms of supply assurance as Intel could be forced to compete with rival semiconductor companies, like Apple, Nvidia and AMD, among others, for production capacity.

TODAYS a X86 CPU made in china with poor Quality is 7nm already and glow up market share.
TSMC ready to Made any CPU with 5 nm. for mobile and GPU and 4nm for some secret CPU.
may be apple silicon. next TSMC and made in china CPU AIM targer is 3 > 2 nm and 1 nm on reserch in lab todays.
that all it just a news no more or less friend.

**Comlow** · 31 Jul 2020, 09:04:07

Intel 11th Core Processor ( Rocket Lake S )

Intel Rocket Lake S มาพร้อมกับ Intel 500 Series Chipset กำหนดลงสนามมีนาคม 2564

ผลการทดสอบ Intel Rocket Lake S เริ่มปรากฎใน SiSoft Sandra Database

การเปิดตัวของ Intel Rocket Lake S น่าจะมาพร้อมกับ Intel SSD NVME Series ใหม่ที่สนุบสนุน PCIE 4.0 ด้วย

**Comlow** · 2 Aug 2020, 13:04:29

Intel 11 thGeneration Core Processor Code Name Tigerlake U System Block debut

Intel First Mobile CPU PCIe Gen 4 Interconnect Insider

Also many features inside

**Comlow** · 2 Aug 2020, 22:27:55

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**Comlow** · 4 Aug 2020, 12:19:19

Acer New SWIFT 3 314-59 Featuring Tigerlake U Release

**Comlow** · 4 Aug 2020, 12:31:09

ASUS 2020 VIVOBOOK 314-X413FP Featuring Icelake U

https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ASUS-VivoBook-14-X413FP

**TWK.** · 4 Aug 2020, 18:36:36

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**TWK.** · 4 Aug 2020, 19:20:54

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**Comlow** · 5 Aug 2020, 09:54:08

Legendary of World leader Microprocessor Design Since Conroe Intel IDC Product

More Info About Apple Macbook Pro

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More Info About Apple iMac 2020

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**Comlow** · 6 Aug 2020, 11:06:05

อัพเดตข่าวล่าสุดจาก Intel Haifa Israel IDC ล่าสุด Intel มีกำหนดส่งมอบ Tigerlake H 10+nm 8 Core 16 Thread 10MB L2 cache 24 MB L3 cache ลงสนาม
Gaming Notebook คู่กับ NVIDIA GeForce 3000 Series Mobile ในช่วง Q1 ปี 2021 โดย CPU ใหม่นี้จะมีระดับ TDP 45/65 Watt และสนับสนุน PCIe 4.0 รวมถึงคำสั่ง
AVX512 เต็มรูปแบบ จะเป็นการต่อยอดความสำเร็จจาก CPU Tigerlake U/Y ในระดับ TDP 25W/15W/9W ที่กำหนดจะลงสนามก่อนในเดือนกันยายน 2563 นี้ โดย
เบื้องต้นทีมงานกำลังทดสอบความเร็วในระดับ 5GHz สำหรับ Tigerlake H ในขณะนี้ และคาดว่าหาก Tigerlake H ได้รับการตอบรับที่ดีเยี่ยม เราอาจจะได้เห็นอะไรที่
พิเศษกว่าข่าวก่อนหน้านี้เช่น Tigerlake S สำหรับแพลตฟอร์ม LGA 1200 ต่อยอดจาก Rocket Lake S ก็เป็นไปได้สูงครับ

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**Comlow** · 7 Aug 2020, 09:01:43

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**Comlow** · 7 Aug 2020, 09:07:29

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**ssk** · 7 Aug 2020, 14:57:34

Intel Claims 10th Gen Core i7-10750H CPU Offers Up To 37% Faster Gaming Performance Than AMD’s Ryzen 7 4800H ‘Renoir’ APU, Up To 25% Higher Productivity Performance In “Real-World’ Benchmarks

By Hassan Mujtaba
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Intel has released a set of new benchmarks as part of its 'Real World Performance' testing methodology which compares its 10th Gen Comet Lake-H lineup against AMD's Ryzen 4000 processors codenamed Renoir.
Intel's Latest 'Real World Performance' Benchmarks Compared 10th Gen CPUs Against AMD's Ryzen 4000 Renoir APUs, Claims Up To 37% Faster Gaming Performance

INTEL บอกว่า GEN 10 นั้นเทพ แรงกว่า RYZEN 4000 ในเกม และ การใช้งาน อย่างมากมาย แต่นักวิเคราะห์ บอกมันโกหก

The Intel Real World Performance benchmarks have been marked with controversy ever since the blue team started using them. We have seen examples of Intel using different configurations when testing their own and competing chips, giving their own lineup an unfair advantage. We have also seen misleading slides where AMD CPUs were shown as one tier below the Intel CPUs based on its own performance metrics which consist of benchmarks purely optimized for their own processors or single-core workloads.

จากผลการทดสอบที่ปล่อยมาโดย INKAK นั้นแสดงให้เห็นว่า ไปเลือกตัวเปรียบเทียบที่ตัวเองคิดว่าตบคว่ำได้แน่ๆ เอามาโฆษณา ว่าข้าแรง นักวิเคราะห์ในวงการให้ความเห็น เลยจัดกันเอง
ให้รู้ไปเลยว่าในความเป็นจริง ไครตอแหล นะจ๊ะ

AMD Navi 21 ‘Big Navi’ GPU Rumored To Be Featured In 16 GB & 12 GB Radeon RX Gaming Graphics Cards

In the latest set of benchmarks published by Benchlife, Intel is shown comparing its 10th Gen Core i7-10750H (Comet Lake-H) CPU to the AMD Ryzen 7 4800H (Renoir-H) APU. The Intel Core i7-10750 features 8 cores and 16 threads on a 14nm process node which clock in at 2.60 GHz base and 5.00 GHz boost clocks with TDP configured at 45W (PL1). The AMD Ryzen 7 4800H, on the other hand, is an 8 core and 16 thread APU on a 7nm process node which clocks in at 2.9 GHz base and 4.2 GHz boost.

One thing that should be mentioned here is that when comparing TDPs, Intel always sets its figures at the base clock. The 45W TDP for the Core i7-10750H is derived at 2.60 GHz while the PL2 rating is derived at the highest boost frequency. For 5.00 GHz, the Core i7-10750H has a PL2 rating of 80W which is almost twice its PL1 TDP. The AMD Ryzen 7 4800H maintains its frequencies within the 45 Watt TDP headroom.
Intel Core i7-10750H vs AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 8 Core Laptop CPUs Benchmarked in Real-World Performance Tests

Coming to the benchmarks, Intel used similar laptop configurations for both CPUs. The laptops used were the Lenovo R7000-2020 (AMD) and Lenovo Y7000-2020 (Intel). Both models feature an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti discrete graphics chip, 16 GB of DDR4 (Dual-Channel) memory, a 512 GB SSD, 1080P HD display and were running on the same OS version (Windows 10 Home V1909 18363.836). The only difference was the memory spec itself which was configured at 2933 MHz for the Intel platform and 3200 MHz for the AMD platform.

ซึ่งนักทดสอบจาก BENCHLIFT จัดให้แบบนี้ สูสีกันไปเลย ว่าของจริงไครแน่

AMD’s Next-Gen Ryzen 9 4950X / 5950X ‘Vermeer’ AM4 Desktop CPU With 16 Zen 3 Cores Spotted, Engineering Sample Boosts Up To 4.8 GHz

Following are the specifics of the configurations that were tested:

Lenovo Y7000-2020

Intel® Core™ i7-10750H Processor (2.6 GHz base up to 5.0 GHz, 6C/12T, 45 W TDP) measured on Lenovo Y7000-2020, 16GB DRAM (2 x 8 GB DDR4 2933MHz), 512G SSD, 1920 x 1080 display, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650Ti 4GB, OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home V1909 18363.836, Battery 60WHr

Lenovo R7000-2020

AMD Ryzen 7 4800H Processor (2.9 GHz base up to 4.2 GHz, 16T/8C, 35 W TDP) measured on Lenovo R7000-2020, 16GB DRAM (2 x 8 GB DDR4 3200MHz), 512G SSD, 1920 x 1080 display, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650Ti 4GB, OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home V1909 18363.836, Battery 60WHr

via Benchlife

A total of 36 games were tested at their default settings. In 14 games, the Intel Core i7-10750H got more than 10% higher FPS on average. Tom Clancy's Division 2 saw the biggest jump in FPS with a 37% gain in performance. Intel claims that its CPU scored better gaming performance than AMD's Ryzen 4000 Renoir APUs in several popular eSports titles such as PUBG, World of Warcraft, Leauge of Legends, Dota 2, CSGO, GTA V and Call of Duty Warzone.

In 21 gaming titles, the Intel CPU got more than 3% better performance on average than the AMD Renoir APU while the performance was on par with the Renoir APU in a single game (Rise of The Tomb Raider). Following is the description of all the gaming titles that were tested:

Games with performance differences of more than 10% are as follows:

Assassin’s Creed® Odyssey、Counter-Strike：Global Offensive、Dota 2、F1® 2019、FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers、Grand Theft Auto V、JX3、League of Legends、Team Fortress 2、Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six® Siege、Tom Clancy’s The Division 2、Total War: Warhammer 2-Campaign、War Thunder Tank Battle、World of Warcraft

Games with performance differences of more than 3% but less than 10% are as follows:

ARK: Survival Evolved、Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation、Battlefield™ 1、Battlefield™ V、Borderlands 3、Call of Duty®: Warzone、Far Cry® 5、Far Cry® New Dawn、FINAL FANTASY XV、HITMAN™ 2、Justice、Middle-earth™: Shadow of War™、Monster Hunter: World、Moonlight Blade、Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord、PLAYER UNKNOWN’S BATTLEGROUNDS (PUBG)、Red Dead Redemption 2、Shadow of the Tomb Raider、Total War: THREE KINGDOMS、World of Tanks enCore、World War Z Vulkan

Games with the same performance are as follows:

Rise of the Tomb Raider（On Par = +/- 3%.)

จากการทดสอบกับเกม 36 เกม ซึ่งมีเพียง 14 เกมเท่านั้นที่แรงกว่าเกิน 10% มีเกมเดียวที่ได้ 30% ตามที่กล่าวอ้าง ซึ่ง INTEL บอกว่าเกมที่เป็น E Sport นั้นแรงกว่าทั้งหมด อย่าง PUBG
แต่จริงๆ ในอีก 25 เกมที่เหลือ รวม PUBG ด้วย นั้นแรงไม่เกิน 10% ซึ่งไม่ได้เยอะอะไร และ มี 1 เกม สูสีกัน

via Benchlife

With the gaming benchmarks out of the way, Intel also focuses on the general performance of its CPUs versus AMD's offerings. The same two CPUs were tested and Intel claims up to 25% better performance in productivity workloads. Intel uses Powerpoint, Excel, Chrome, and a range of other popular benchmarks to test the performance metrics but at the same time, leaves out the multi-threading intensive benchmarks out of its testing suite which is a segment where AMD dominates.

It's also surprising that Intel is still relying on benchmarks to showcase the potential of its 10th Gen CPUs whereas its CEO stated that the industry should stop focusing on benchmarks. A few months back, an internal Intel memo leaked out revealing that they have been assessing AMD's progress with their Ryzen, Ryzen Threadripper, and EPYC processors, going as far as to call them a huge risk for their own CPU lineups in the coming years. Meanwhile, AMD is clawing away CPU share from Intel in all segments include servers, desktops, and notebook PCs.

จบจากเร่องเกม INTEL บอกว่า GEN 10 แรงกว่า AMD 25% ในการทำงาน ซึ่งทดสอบบน POWER POINT EXEL BENCHMARK นั้น AMD นำมาตลอดในการทำงานแบบ MULTITHREAD และมันยังน่าประหาดใจมาก ก้ CEO INTEL มันเพิ่งพูดว่าอย่าไปสนใจ BENCHMARK หยกๆ นี่แวร้ แต่กลืนน้ำลายเฉย แต่ตรงนี้นักทดสอบบอกว่า มีคนเห็นข่าวหลุดจาก INTEL เองนั่นแหละ ว่า AMD RYZEN EPYC มันไปไกลเกินกว่าคำว่าน่ากลัวเฉยๆแล้ว แต่มันเป็นภัยคุกคามอย่างแท้จริง เพราะมันสามารถตะปบส่วนแบ่งตลาดไปจาก INTEL ได้ทุกเมื่อ ทุกตลาด

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