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    cpu Phenom x6 1090t
    bord Gig GA-880GA-UD3h
    ram 8gb
    psu corsair tx850w
    vga asus 290x directcu ii
    ้hddx2
    ssdx1
    พัดลม 9ตัว

    เครื่องค้างไม่จอฟ้าต้องกดรีสตาทใหม่นะครับ
    เป็นได้ทุกเวลาครับเปิดโหลดบิตก็ค้างครับ
    บางวันก็ค้างบ่อยบางวันก็ไม่กี่ครั้งครับ

    ของเก่าhis hd6970 อันนี้ไม่ค้าง ครับ

  • #2
    ดูทรงแล้วจอดำ เห็นแว๊บๆเหมือน 280X ที่เม็ดแรมมีปัญหา

    เอาไปเคลมครับ

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    • #3
      จอไม่ดำอะครับ เครื่องค้าง ภาพค้างนะครับ

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      • #4
        เคมกาดจอตัวใหม่ดูนะว่าเป็นไหม

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        • #5
          อ่านมาเจอกันหลายคน นะ ที่เป็น 290x แรกๆคิดว่า psuไฟไม่พอ มาลองเองแล้ว psu 1200w ก็ยังเป็น
          เฟลตไบออส ปรับไฟเลี้ยงเพิ่ม ขัดพวกหน้าสัมผัสต่างๆ แรม,vga,สายไฟต่างๆ สุดท้ายลงวินไหม่ ลองไดรเวอเก่าๆ
          ก็ยังเป็นนะ ค้างไม่เลือกเวลา บางวันเป็น 5-6 รอบ บางวัน เบรินเทสทั้งวัน ยังเฉยๆ 9-12 ชม ยังนิ่งดี

          สงสัย น่าจะเม็ดแรมอย่างที่เขาลือๆกัน เดียวหาข้อมูลเพิ่มอีกหน่อย ไม่ไหว จริง คงต้องเคลม
          ท่านอื่น เจอปัญหาแบบนี้ เจอวิธีแก้ก็ บอกๆกันครับ / ขอบคุณครับ

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          • #6
            I found a fix that works for me and I have yet to have a crash since implementation.

            My issue was that my ASUS R9 290X would crash while watching Youtube, browsing web, and some older games.
            However when playing newer games it never crashed. I worked on this for 4 months, digging through post after post when I found a little secret in a comment of a youtube video. After nearly a week to make sure I wasn't being fooled, I am now confident enough to share this fix with you. Hopefully I will save someone from great woe and gnashing of teeth.
            First I'll explain the problem, and why this is happening. (to the best of my knowledge)
            R9 290 and R9 290x series cards run extremely hot, to the point where manufacturers were under clocking the 2d GPU Clock and Memory Clock to bring down idle temperatures. What happens is because the clock is so low, the voltage drops due to not being needed, said voltage drop triggers an under voltage situation, causing your pc to crash or shut down and restart due to under-volt protection. basically you're not running the gpu enough, I think this is also causing the video driver crash error some people are getting too. VLC media player used to crash my pc anywhere between 1 minute and 20 minutes after starting a video. Now it doesn't after hours and hours. Same with Youtube, or games that still use a good amount of 2D Hardware. Minecraft (think of the menus, all 2d) Titan Quest (the hud and menus are all 2d) These would crash often, but not other games. BF4 ran and still runs like a dream. Far Cry 4. Runs on ultra 1080p with only slight dips below 50 fps during driving. I think newer games use very little to no 2d sprites, so they don't cause this crash.

            The Fix:
            I don't think new drivers are necessary, but I have the latest OMEGA Radeon drivers, and the latest bios for my GPU.
            Mine works, so I can't confirm these are required steps, but I recommend them. Maybe do this first, if you want.
            Then download the latest version of ASUS GPU Tweak. Can be found on ASUS Support website. If you have a MSI or other brand card, download MSI Afterburner or equivalent. I can confirm ASUS GPU Tweak works, because it has the 2d option. I can't confirm MSI Afterburner has this, but I'm sure it does. refer to MSI Afterburner help to see if it has 2d settings.
            Before Installing GPU Tweak or equivalent, go into CCC (Catalyst Control Center) and disable AMD Overdrive so It doesn't conflict with ASUS GPU Tweak or MSI Afterburner. Don't worry. If your card is stock overclocked, it will retain it's stock overclock. I am not confirming they conflict, this will just prevent it, since you now will be using Afterburner or Tweak to control clock and fan settings from now on. CCC will still be used to adjust graphic options for games etc. Some folks don't even use CCC...
            After disabling AMD Overdrive, install GPU Tweak (or afterburner)
            Use internal updater to make sure you have the latest version. go into options and set it up to start when windows starts, and I chose to have it minimize once opened, so it's not in the way on startup.
            You'll see a overly fancy red window with a giant tachometer on the top. Under that you'll see a Red button that reads "3D", and to the right a description of the card you have.
            Hover pointer over the 3D, click 2D. Now you can change the 2d settings for your card.
            Change GPU Clock to 430 MHZ. I recommend typing in 0430.
            Change Memory Clock to 900 MHZ. Again, type as 0900....
            (not required) I also recommend Defining an new heat to fan speed curve, as I think the stock one sucks. Click the little gear by user define.

            Important last step:
            Make sure to save your new 2d settings, and if you chose to your new fan curve to a profile, you'll have to select that profile every time you use your pc.

            Caveats:
            1. You could RMA your card, but it takes forever and you might get another back with the same issue. I did this and I'm content. (I've been trying to figure this problem out for 4 freaking months, needless to say I'm pleased as punch.) I even thought it was sub-standard power in my house, or my CPU, or my RAM... lols. A new build nightmare.
            2. This mod will fix your problem, but bring your idle gpu temp up. Make sure you have adequate cooling. Is your case cramped? Jungle of wires?? Clean it. Maybe change your thermal compound on your cpu, and clean everything. Fix that jungle... My idle temp of my gpu went from 38c to 47c.... Not a big deal for me at all. Under load there will be no change in temp. If bf4 took it near 90c, that won't change. If your cpu is on the verge of overheating, or other components, make sure you're ready for a jump of 10c or more on a cramp dirty case. my cpu is on water, so I'm not concerned about 10 degrees..
            3. If you think it's a pain in the butt to click profile 1 on GPU tweak when you turn on your pc, RMA your card.
            It's really not a big deal and takes minutes to install, and seconds every time you turn on.
            4. Don't close ASUS GPU Tweak after clicking your saved profile. Clicking the X closes it completely and shuts off any changes you've made. GPU Tweak will need to always be running in the background, but uses little resources anyways. I'm not sure if MSI Afterburner works the same way, and you need to keep it open. Just minimize it. Someone with an MSI card, and issues, should try Afterburner and report their findings.
            Again, this took me 4 months to figure out, I hope I can get you fixed in 30 minutes...

            Thanks again for everyone's input.
            Let me know if you have any questions or problems.

            Cheers!
            Matt

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            • #7
              I updated this post too many times so I decided to write it from start after testing the AMD OMEGA Catalyst driver. I have spent about 3 weeks on this problem as I am an owner of an r9 290 that I can?t rma and I am too tired to do so. I have managed to make the black screens disappear 1 week now, which never happened with any other driver version and any possible set of tweaks.
              In general I will say that th?? problem isn?t related to PSUs or older PCI-E version slots or gpu temperatures directly or gpu memory speeds directly. As I read at some forums, even with many tweaks even ROM changes, the problem persisted even though at less frequent appearances . It is definitely, for some users, a hardware fault and a reason to RMA your card if you can. If you can?t anymore or you got bored RMAing or you just plain cant then read this post and try to implement all the tweaks I gathered the last 3 weeks of my effort.
              Keep in mind that, at least for me, with Omega driver you just need the tick on "force contant voltage" on msi afterburner and adding some voltage on System Agent voltage at motherboard BIOS. With just those two tweaks I haven?t seen a crash all day now, even at games that were crashing the least often every 2 hours.
              First of all, do the proper thing and clean your system of previous AMD drivers before installing Omega driver

              Now for the tweaks
              1) At bios, make sure you add some voltage to System Agent Voltage. A 1.055 is the max I would suggest, I am at 1.005, keep in mind that every motherboard is different in terms of sensitivity at voltage tweaking.
              2) Uninstall your amd radeon drivers
              ? had issues properly uninstalling 14.9 and every driver i installed afterwards was installing with some report logs and ! marks.
              Download Display Driver Uninstaller (or DDU) 13.4.1.0 and extract it in a folder
              Boot to safe mode (various ways to do that, that differ from OS to OS google it)
              Go to device manager, find your gpu, uninstall it and tick also the "uninstall all associated drivers" or smth like that
              Run DDU and select AMD then uninstall and restart pc, you can also select to delete the c:\amd folder
              it should reboot to normal mode, check device manager, should have as display controller a "microsoft basic display adapter" or smth like that.
              install your Omega amd driver. Although i was avoiding AMD Gaming Evolved software, some games optimized by it, seem to have become 100% stable! So I know, strange but whatever works right?
              reboot


              3) Install, Start MSI afterburner
              1) Settings - > Force constant voltage ticked
              2) Settings-> Unlock Voltage Control ticked (MSI )
              3) Custom Fan settings, I prefer setups like 30% fan speed up to 60Celsius, then 100% at 80% Celsius and adjust it depending your room temps, as long as you never see 75+ Celsius. I do that because I believe that graphic cards that their temperature changes never go over 20-30 celsius last longer. Extremely true on laptop graphic chips..A Simple contraction expansion rule really.
              4) Make 2 profiles (3rd is optional but it proves something is weird and not related to memory speeds 100% )
              1st Profile similar to the one MrToast72 suggested : Core Voltage +25, Core Clock 875, Memory Clock 950, Power limit +5%, let's call it Safety profile (if you still get some black screens take power limit to -10%, it worked for some!)
              2nd Profile, the average profile (that proves that the other settings in bios , drivers are helping) Core Clock Default, Memory Clock Default, core voltage 30, power limit 10%, let's call it Default profile
              3rd Profile (and what proves memories could be not at fault but a controller or something like that on the gpu or an unstable auto-voltage rule somewhere)
              Core Voltage +40, Power Limit +20, Core Clock 1000!, Memory Clock 1300! Yes an overclock profile even for my VTX3D r9 290 x-edition V2,

              That?s it! Hope your black screen errors have minimized or even disappeared.

              I have gathered a lot of information around the web for this frustrating problem, in case you wanna test more.
              For some users disabling adobe flash acceleration in browsers helped
              For some others, installing only the drivers of the gpu and not the whole catalyst packet helped
              Overclocked CPUs were affecting negatively the whole effort
              Some others said that older PCI-E versions were affecting it negatively
              Some others blamed the PSUs but I have a 1000watt 80% psu and have it.
              Some others blamed the memory of the gpu. Although I can?t confirm otherwise, the overclocking profile should be crashing continuously if that was the case.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AKK_K View Post
                I found a fix that works for me and I have yet to have a crash since implementation.

                My issue was that my ASUS R9 290X would crash while watching Youtube, browsing web, and some older games.
                However when playing newer games it never crashed. I worked on this for 4 months, digging through post after post when I found a little secret in a comment of a youtube video. After nearly a week to make sure I wasn't being fooled, I am now confident enough to share this fix with you. Hopefully I will save someone from great woe and gnashing of teeth.
                First I'll explain the problem, and why this is happening. (to the best of my knowledge)
                R9 290 and R9 290x series cards run extremely hot, to the point where manufacturers were under clocking the 2d GPU Clock and Memory Clock to bring down idle temperatures. What happens is because the clock is so low, the voltage drops due to not being needed, said voltage drop triggers an under voltage situation, causing your pc to crash or shut down and restart due to under-volt protection. basically you're not running the gpu enough, I think this is also causing the video driver crash error some people are getting too. VLC media player used to crash my pc anywhere between 1 minute and 20 minutes after starting a video. Now it doesn't after hours and hours. Same with Youtube, or games that still use a good amount of 2D Hardware. Minecraft (think of the menus, all 2d) Titan Quest (the hud and menus are all 2d) These would crash often, but not other games. BF4 ran and still runs like a dream. Far Cry 4. Runs on ultra 1080p with only slight dips below 50 fps during driving. I think newer games use very little to no 2d sprites, so they don't cause this crash.

                The Fix:
                I don't think new drivers are necessary, but I have the latest OMEGA Radeon drivers, and the latest bios for my GPU.
                Mine works, so I can't confirm these are required steps, but I recommend them. Maybe do this first, if you want.
                Then download the latest version of ASUS GPU Tweak. Can be found on ASUS Support website. If you have a MSI or other brand card, download MSI Afterburner or equivalent. I can confirm ASUS GPU Tweak works, because it has the 2d option. I can't confirm MSI Afterburner has this, but I'm sure it does. refer to MSI Afterburner help to see if it has 2d settings.
                Before Installing GPU Tweak or equivalent, go into CCC (Catalyst Control Center) and disable AMD Overdrive so It doesn't conflict with ASUS GPU Tweak or MSI Afterburner. Don't worry. If your card is stock overclocked, it will retain it's stock overclock. I am not confirming they conflict, this will just prevent it, since you now will be using Afterburner or Tweak to control clock and fan settings from now on. CCC will still be used to adjust graphic options for games etc. Some folks don't even use CCC...
                After disabling AMD Overdrive, install GPU Tweak (or afterburner)
                Use internal updater to make sure you have the latest version. go into options and set it up to start when windows starts, and I chose to have it minimize once opened, so it's not in the way on startup.
                You'll see a overly fancy red window with a giant tachometer on the top. Under that you'll see a Red button that reads "3D", and to the right a description of the card you have.
                Hover pointer over the 3D, click 2D. Now you can change the 2d settings for your card.
                Change GPU Clock to 430 MHZ. I recommend typing in 0430.
                Change Memory Clock to 900 MHZ. Again, type as 0900....
                (not required) I also recommend Defining an new heat to fan speed curve, as I think the stock one sucks. Click the little gear by user define.

                Important last step:
                Make sure to save your new 2d settings, and if you chose to your new fan curve to a profile, you'll have to select that profile every time you use your pc.

                Caveats:
                1. You could RMA your card, but it takes forever and you might get another back with the same issue. I did this and I'm content. (I've been trying to figure this problem out for 4 freaking months, needless to say I'm pleased as punch.) I even thought it was sub-standard power in my house, or my CPU, or my RAM... lols. A new build nightmare.
                2. This mod will fix your problem, but bring your idle gpu temp up. Make sure you have adequate cooling. Is your case cramped? Jungle of wires?? Clean it. Maybe change your thermal compound on your cpu, and clean everything. Fix that jungle... My idle temp of my gpu went from 38c to 47c.... Not a big deal for me at all. Under load there will be no change in temp. If bf4 took it near 90c, that won't change. If your cpu is on the verge of overheating, or other components, make sure you're ready for a jump of 10c or more on a cramp dirty case. my cpu is on water, so I'm not concerned about 10 degrees..
                3. If you think it's a pain in the butt to click profile 1 on GPU tweak when you turn on your pc, RMA your card.
                It's really not a big deal and takes minutes to install, and seconds every time you turn on.
                4. Don't close ASUS GPU Tweak after clicking your saved profile. Clicking the X closes it completely and shuts off any changes you've made. GPU Tweak will need to always be running in the background, but uses little resources anyways. I'm not sure if MSI Afterburner works the same way, and you need to keep it open. Just minimize it. Someone with an MSI card, and issues, should try Afterburner and report their findings.
                Again, this took me 4 months to figure out, I hope I can get you fixed in 30 minutes...

                Thanks again for everyone's input.
                Let me know if you have any questions or problems.

                Cheers!
                Matt

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FREEDOMX View Post
                  อ่านมาเจอกันหลายคน นะ ที่เป็น 290x แรกๆคิดว่า psuไฟไม่พอ มาลองเองแล้ว psu 1200w ก็ยังเป็น
                  เฟลตไบออส ปรับไฟเลี้ยงเพิ่ม ขัดพวกหน้าสัมผัสต่างๆ แรม,vga,สายไฟต่างๆ สุดท้ายลงวินไหม่ ลองไดรเวอเก่าๆ
                  ก็ยังเป็นนะ ค้างไม่เลือกเวลา บางวันเป็น 5-6 รอบ บางวัน เบรินเทสทั้งวัน ยังเฉยๆ 9-12 ชม ยังนิ่งดี

                  สงสัย น่าจะเม็ดแรมอย่างที่เขาลือๆกัน เดียวหาข้อมูลเพิ่มอีกหน่อย ไม่ไหว จริง คงต้องเคลม
                  ท่านอื่น เจอปัญหาแบบนี้ เจอวิธีแก้ก็ บอกๆกันครับ / ขอบคุณครับ
                  สาเหตุคือตอนอยู่ที่ 2D Mode ก็จะมีการลดไฟลงและทีนี้ดูเหมือนจะมีปัญหาจอดำ Restart (BSc)

                  ลองแก้ไขโดยการเพิ่มไฟช่วง 2D
                  หรือโดยอ้อมเพิ่ม Clock 2D (ไฟมันจะเพิ่มตามเอง)

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                  • #10
                    ของผมก็เป็นเหมือนกันครับ
                    asus r9 290x dc2oc ใช้กับ psu corsair ax850
                    อาการคือเปิดไว้นานๆ เช่นโหลดบิท กลับมาเปิดหน้าจออีกทีคอมค้างไปแล้ว
                    บางครั้ง พัดลมการ์ดจอหมุนแรงผิดปกติ น่าจะ3000รอบครับ
                    เปลี่ยนเอา 6950 ของเพื่อนมาลอง อาการปกติครับไม่มีปัญหา
                    ส่งให้ทางร้านเช็คดู ร้านเขาบอกว่ายังไม่พบอาการ
                    ของท่านได้เรื่องว่ายังไงรบกวนบอกกันด้วยนะครับ

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by slayer1905 View Post
                      ของผมก็เป็นเหมือนกันครับ
                      asus r9 290x dc2oc ใช้กับ psu corsair ax850
                      อาการคือเปิดไว้นานๆ เช่นโหลดบิท กลับมาเปิดหน้าจออีกทีคอมค้างไปแล้ว
                      บางครั้ง พัดลมการ์ดจอหมุนแรงผิดปกติ น่าจะ3000รอบครับ
                      เปลี่ยนเอา 6950 ของเพื่อนมาลอง อาการปกติครับไม่มีปัญหา
                      ส่งให้ทางร้านเช็คดู ร้านเขาบอกว่ายังไม่พบอาการ
                      ของท่านได้เรื่องว่ายังไงรบกวนบอกกันด้วยนะครับ
                      280X ผมก็เป็นเหมือนท่านเลย

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Venom_I7 View Post
                        280X ผมก็เป็นเหมือนท่านเลย
                        ของท่านแก้ปัญหายังไงบ้างเหรอครับ หรือส่งเคลม

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by slayer1905 View Post
                          ของท่านแก้ปัญหายังไงบ้างเหรอครับ หรือส่งเคลม
                          ไม่ได้แก้อะไรครับท่าน บางครั้งมันก็ไม่เป็น ส่วนใหญ่ตอนที่ผมทิ้งเครื่องไว้นานสัก 1-2ชม. ขึ้นไปถึงจะเป็นครับ

                          แต่ของผมเครื่องไม่ค้างนะ เพราะผมชอบเปิดเพลงทิ้งไว้ เพลงยังเล่นปกติ

                          ผมเลยลองกดปุ่ม power มันก็shutdown ปกติเพียงแต่ว่าไม่มีภาพ no signal ครับ -*-

                          ปล. 280X Vapor-X ครับผม

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by AKK_K View Post
                            สาเหตุคือตอนอยู่ที่ 2D Mode ก็จะมีการลดไฟลงและทีนี้ดูเหมือนจะมีปัญหาจอดำ Restart (BSc)

                            ลองแก้ไขโดยการเพิ่มไฟช่วง 2D
                            หรือโดยอ้อมเพิ่ม Clock 2D (ไฟมันจะเพิ่มตามเอง)
                            เพิ่มไฟตรงไหนคับ ที่ power control รึเปล่า R7 ของผมก็เป็นบ้างไม่เป้นบ้าง ทีแรกนึกว่าวินเอ๋อซะอีก

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                            • #15
                              ผมก็เคยเป็นครับ แฟลช BIOS ใหม่แล้วหาย ใช้ตัวใหม่ของ ASUS R9 290X นะครับ

                              Link : http://www.asus.com/th/Graphics_Card...Desk_Download/

                              ลองดูเวอร์ชันของตัวเองดูก่อนครับว่า เวอร์ชั่นไหน ^ ^

                              ปล. การ Flash BIOS มีความเสี่ยงผู้แนะนำ ไม่แบกรับความเสี่ยง ตัวใครตัวมัน 555

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