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  • #16
    ผมกำลังซื้อ 4870 มาวันนี้เองครับ เหอะๆ

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    • #17
      ผมว่าคงอีกนานเพราะซีรีย์ 4xxx ยังกอบโกยไม่หมด

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      • #18
        "While Cell’s XDR interface offers over 2x the memory bandwidth of any PC-based microprocsesor, Cell’s FlexIO interface weighs in at 76.8GB/s - almost 10x the chip-to-chip bandwidth of AMD’s Athlon 64." - Anandtech

        A picture is worth a thousand words -> HD 5870 Concept
        And this is the cards for the other market segments -> HD 5000 Series

        A slave chip, or SIMD Core, is made of 8 blocs, for a total of 640 SP (128 SP 4D+1) and 16 TMUs -> picture

        HD 5450 -> 640 SP + 16 TMUs (1 master chip)
        HD 5650 -> 1280 SP + 32 TMUs (1 master chip + 1 slave)
        HD 5670 -> 1920 SP + 48 TMUs (1 master chip + 2 slaves)
        HD 5850 -> 2560 SP + 64 TMUs (1 master chip + 3 slaves)
        HD 5870 -> 3200 SP + 80 TMUs (1 master chip + 4 slaves)

        Good!:

        • Need only 2 chips (master/slave) to create a complete series of graphic cards.
        • The slave chip is an exact copy of the "SP/TMUs" part of the master chip.
        So when you create the master chip, you also create 95% of the slave chip.
        • Less time/money needed to create a new series -> 9 month product cycle instead of 12 months.
        • Very small chips -> very good yields -> very good price.
        • Shared memory architecture !

        Bad!:

        • The highest memory bandwidth hogs are the ROPs and the Level 2 texture caches, so ATI has physically placed these units next to the memory controllers and used a thousand or so traces to connect them. So, for now, it's impossible to put the RBEs inside the slave chips. Thus, the master chip has to contain enough RBEs for the HD 5870... but this high number of RBEs will be overkill for the HD 54xx/56xx. This is perhaps the major problem with this design.

        NOTE: I know that there is a RBE in the first image but I'm too lazy to remove it.
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        Last edited by pisanu2; 10 Apr 2009, 14:50:31.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pisanu2 View Post
          "While Cell’s XDR interface offers over 2x the memory bandwidth of any PC-based microprocsesor, Cell’s FlexIO interface weighs in at 76.8GB/s - almost 10x the chip-to-chip bandwidth of AMD’s Athlon 64." - Anandtech

          A picture is worth a thousand words -> HD 5870 Concept
          And this is the cards for the other market segments -> HD 5000 Series

          A slave chip, or SIMD Core, is made of 8 blocs, for a total of 640 SP (128 SP 4D+1) and 16 TMUs -> picture

          HD 5450 -> 640 SP + 16 TMUs (1 master chip)
          HD 5650 -> 1280 SP + 32 TMUs (1 master chip + 1 slave)
          HD 5670 -> 1920 SP + 48 TMUs (1 master chip + 2 slaves)
          HD 5850 -> 2560 SP + 64 TMUs (1 master chip + 3 slaves)
          HD 5870 -> 3200 SP + 80 TMUs (1 master chip + 4 slaves)

          Good!:

          • Need only 2 chips (master/slave) to create a complete series of graphic cards.
          • The slave chip is an exact copy of the "SP/TMUs" part of the master chip.
          So when you create the master chip, you also create 95% of the slave chip.
          • Less time/money needed to create a new series -> 9 month product cycle instead of 12 months.
          • Very small chips -> very good yields -> very good price.
          • Shared memory architecture !

          Bad!:

          • The highest memory bandwidth hogs are the ROPs and the Level 2 texture caches, so ATI has physically placed these units next to the memory controllers and used a thousand or so traces to connect them. So, for now, it's impossible to put the RBEs inside the slave chips. Thus, the master chip has to contain enough RBEs for the HD 5870... but this high number of RBEs will be overkill for the HD 54xx/56xx. This is perhaps the major problem with this design.

          NOTE: I know that there is a RBE in the first image but I'm too lazy to remove it.
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          • #20
            ^
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            อันนี้เค้าทำกันเองไม่ใช่หรอ มันไม่ได้ออกมาจาก ATI อะ

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            • #21
              สงสัยเป็นการคาดเดาจากกลุ่มผู้ใช้ล่ะมังครับ

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