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สรุปสั้น Ryzen 3000+ สำหรับคนสนใจรุ่นประหยัด ส่วนคน Steam จัด Ryzen 9 3900X+ เท่านั้น
1.อยาก Steam Slow Quality Preset Ryzen 9 3900X+ เท่านั้น จบจ้า ป้าเค้าการันตี
2.สำหรับคนสนใจรุ่นประหยัด จัด Ryzen 5 3600 หรือ 7 ได้ตามสะดวก ที่ งบ อำนวย แล้ว
3.เล่นแรม แค่ 3600 CL16 หรือ แรม 3200 กด CL14 พอ จบ
4.เลือกบอร์ดในงบ 5000 up X570 ได้ตามสะดวก
5.ที่เหลือ เอางบไปลง RX 5700XT
ใครมีเครื่องแรงอยู่แล้ว แนะนำ รอไปปีหน้า Zen 2+ ครับ
หรือใครอยากจัด Ryzen 3000X ขำๆ ตามสะดวกจ้า
Originally posted by THEFOOL
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Simultaneous Gaming and Streaming
This really isn’t my arena, but I felt it needed to be expressed here so I’ll let AMD do it in their words:
While raw gaming performance is still a common yardstick amongst enthusiasts for performance comparisons, many gamers aspire to even greater heights: streaming their gameplay in high-definition while playing, “Many gamers” is an increasingly astounding figure, too. In the last five years, eSports has grown from a little-known niche corner of the gaming market to a global phenomenon on-track to reach $1 billion in 2019. And the fans are no less enthusiastic, watching 9 billion man hours of content in 2018.
At the heart of this trend lies Twitch, which has helped feed the growth of eSports by serving as a cultural nexus for gamers sharing their gameplay and personalities with loyal fans. But the simplicity of broadcasting to Twitch can come with some steep hardware requirements. According to Twitch customer support, “many broadcasters will find that they get a lot of ‘input lag’ when playing video games.”
“Some games are very CPU-intensive and require a strong computer to run. These games are tough on your processor, especially if you are running the game on the highest settings,” Twitch Support reads.
Broadcasters say the rise of GPU encoding has not done much to address the needs of streamers that expect the best quality for their viewers. Many streamers agree that the relatively tight 3500-6000 Kbps bitrate limits of Twitch, and the short render-to-broadcast window for a smooth stream, put the GPU at a disadvantage. Users often report that GPU encoders need more bitrate to achieve the same quality delivered by a CPU-based x264 encoder preconfigured on streaming packages like QBS and Xsplit. Though GPU encoders are getting better all the time, and work wonders for users on performance-constrained systems, the world’s top streamers still rely on processors or dual systems to give the best result for their fans.
More recent contenders to the streaming space are acknowledging the growing appetite for higher stream quality, and the expanding portfolio of hardware to deliver it. YouTube, for example, recommends up to 9000 Kbps for live 1080p6O streaming.
But bitrate alone does not determine final quality. It Is widely understood that the x264 encoder profile (e.g. Fast, Faster, Slow] has an outsized impact on the resulting encode, as the CPU spends more or less time on scene analysis before spending bitrate budget on the encode. Streamquality.report has been working to address this debate in concrete terms via Netflix machine learning algorithms, which can suss out an exact quality metric by comparing encoded frames to the original. Their results find a bitrate in the range of 7500 Kbps+ with the Slow preset offers the highest quality result on subjective and objective terms with a Netflix VMAF score of 81.9/100—-the best score of any preset they tested.
That brings us to AMD’s own evaluation of gaming and streaming, which we demonstrated privately and publicly using Tom Clancy’s The Division 2, to compare the 12-core AMD Ryzen™ 9 3900X and 8-core Core i9-9900K at approximately the same price. The results were conclusive: the Ryzen 9 3900X can readily handle the higher-quality presets outlined by YouTube and Streamquality.report, while the 9900K could not deliver a smooth stream to viewers. Testing across a range of bitrates and titles showed fewer dropped frames in the 9900K stream quality, but dropped frames appear largely unavoidable without sacrificing the high-quality Slow preset. Altogether, this highlights the benefit of newer and more capable hardware, as such devices can accomplish new workloads that are qualitatively beneficial to the user
That brings us to AMD’s own evaluation of gaming and streaming, which we demonstrated privately and publicly using Tom Clancy’s The Division 2, to compare the 12-core AMD Ryzen™ 9 3900X and 8-core Core i9-9900K at approximately the same price. The results were conclusive: the Ryzen 9 3900X can readily handle the higher-quality presets outlined by YouTube and Streamquality.report, while the 9900K could not deliver a smooth stream to viewers. Testing across a range of bitrates and titles showed fewer dropped frames in the 9900K stream quality, but dropped frames appear largely unavoidable without sacrificing the high-quality Slow preset. Altogether, this highlights the benefit of newer and more capable hardware, as such devices can accomplish new workloads that are qualitatively beneficial to the user
ตามนั้น
This really isn’t my arena, but I felt it needed to be expressed here so I’ll let AMD do it in their words:
While raw gaming performance is still a common yardstick amongst enthusiasts for performance comparisons, many gamers aspire to even greater heights: streaming their gameplay in high-definition while playing, “Many gamers” is an increasingly astounding figure, too. In the last five years, eSports has grown from a little-known niche corner of the gaming market to a global phenomenon on-track to reach $1 billion in 2019. And the fans are no less enthusiastic, watching 9 billion man hours of content in 2018.
At the heart of this trend lies Twitch, which has helped feed the growth of eSports by serving as a cultural nexus for gamers sharing their gameplay and personalities with loyal fans. But the simplicity of broadcasting to Twitch can come with some steep hardware requirements. According to Twitch customer support, “many broadcasters will find that they get a lot of ‘input lag’ when playing video games.”
“Some games are very CPU-intensive and require a strong computer to run. These games are tough on your processor, especially if you are running the game on the highest settings,” Twitch Support reads.
Broadcasters say the rise of GPU encoding has not done much to address the needs of streamers that expect the best quality for their viewers. Many streamers agree that the relatively tight 3500-6000 Kbps bitrate limits of Twitch, and the short render-to-broadcast window for a smooth stream, put the GPU at a disadvantage. Users often report that GPU encoders need more bitrate to achieve the same quality delivered by a CPU-based x264 encoder preconfigured on streaming packages like QBS and Xsplit. Though GPU encoders are getting better all the time, and work wonders for users on performance-constrained systems, the world’s top streamers still rely on processors or dual systems to give the best result for their fans.
More recent contenders to the streaming space are acknowledging the growing appetite for higher stream quality, and the expanding portfolio of hardware to deliver it. YouTube, for example, recommends up to 9000 Kbps for live 1080p6O streaming.
But bitrate alone does not determine final quality. It Is widely understood that the x264 encoder profile (e.g. Fast, Faster, Slow] has an outsized impact on the resulting encode, as the CPU spends more or less time on scene analysis before spending bitrate budget on the encode. Streamquality.report has been working to address this debate in concrete terms via Netflix machine learning algorithms, which can suss out an exact quality metric by comparing encoded frames to the original. Their results find a bitrate in the range of 7500 Kbps+ with the Slow preset offers the highest quality result on subjective and objective terms with a Netflix VMAF score of 81.9/100—-the best score of any preset they tested.
That brings us to AMD’s own evaluation of gaming and streaming, which we demonstrated privately and publicly using Tom Clancy’s The Division 2, to compare the 12-core AMD Ryzen™ 9 3900X and 8-core Core i9-9900K at approximately the same price. The results were conclusive: the Ryzen 9 3900X can readily handle the higher-quality presets outlined by YouTube and Streamquality.report, while the 9900K could not deliver a smooth stream to viewers. Testing across a range of bitrates and titles showed fewer dropped frames in the 9900K stream quality, but dropped frames appear largely unavoidable without sacrificing the high-quality Slow preset. Altogether, this highlights the benefit of newer and more capable hardware, as such devices can accomplish new workloads that are qualitatively beneficial to the user
That brings us to AMD’s own evaluation of gaming and streaming, which we demonstrated privately and publicly using Tom Clancy’s The Division 2, to compare the 12-core AMD Ryzen™ 9 3900X and 8-core Core i9-9900K at approximately the same price. The results were conclusive: the Ryzen 9 3900X can readily handle the higher-quality presets outlined by YouTube and Streamquality.report, while the 9900K could not deliver a smooth stream to viewers. Testing across a range of bitrates and titles showed fewer dropped frames in the 9900K stream quality, but dropped frames appear largely unavoidable without sacrificing the high-quality Slow preset. Altogether, this highlights the benefit of newer and more capable hardware, as such devices can accomplish new workloads that are qualitatively beneficial to the user
ตามนั้น
1.อยาก Steam Slow Quality Preset Ryzen 9 3900X+ เท่านั้น จบจ้า ป้าเค้าการันตี
2.สำหรับคนสนใจรุ่นประหยัด จัด Ryzen 5 3600 หรือ 7 ได้ตามสะดวก ที่ งบ อำนวย แล้ว
3.เล่นแรม แค่ 3600 CL16 หรือ แรม 3200 กด CL14 พอ จบ
Originally posted by osxp
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ราคาบอร์ด X570 จาก JIB ครับ
Originally posted by THEFOOL
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Originally posted by osxp
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Navi ถอด VP9 ได้แล้วครับ
The Radeon Multimedia Engine is updated with support for more CODECs. The "Navi 10" GPU provides hardware-acceleration for decoding VP9 video at formats of up to 4K @ 90 fps (frames per second), or 8K @ 24 fps. The H.265 HEVC implementation is more substantial, with hardware-accelerated encoding of 4K at frame-rates of up to 60 fps. H.265 HEVC decoding is accelerated at 8K @ 24 fps, and 4K @ 90 fps, and 1080p at up to 360 fps. H.264 MPEG4 encoding gets a boost of 4K @ 150 fps, and 1080p @ 600 fps decoding; and 4K @ 90 fps and 1080p @ 150 fps encoding.
The Radeon Multimedia Engine is updated with support for more CODECs. The "Navi 10" GPU provides hardware-acceleration for decoding VP9 video at formats of up to 4K @ 90 fps (frames per second), or 8K @ 24 fps. The H.265 HEVC implementation is more substantial, with hardware-accelerated encoding of 4K at frame-rates of up to 60 fps. H.265 HEVC decoding is accelerated at 8K @ 24 fps, and 4K @ 90 fps, and 1080p at up to 360 fps. H.264 MPEG4 encoding gets a boost of 4K @ 150 fps, and 1080p @ 600 fps decoding; and 4K @ 90 fps and 1080p @ 150 fps encoding.
Originally posted by CUTTER_Z
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^^^ เหตุเพราะมี เลยเอานี่อีกตัว แต่เป็นรุ่นเล็กสุด เอาไปใส่อีกเครื่อง จะเอาไปดูซีรีย์และ Decode/Encode หนังสักหน่อย
ใครมีเครื่องแรงอยู่แล้ว แนะนำ รอไปปีหน้า Zen 2+ ครับ
หรือใครอยากจัด Ryzen 3000X ขำๆ ตามสะดวกจ้า
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